Mr. Griffin. Are there any incidents that you can recall which would indicate that?

Mr. Rubenstein. He wouldn’t do his homework, that is a good enough incident.

Mr. Griffin. How about his companions during that period?

Mr. Rubenstein. He had nice friends. He always had, because Jack was a little bit choosy about his friends, I mean it. He always had nice friends, fellows who either they were doctors’ sons or boys in the neighborhood that respected Jack, and Jack was more progressive than the rest of us, was a hustler.

Anything that he could go out and sell and make a dollar, legitimately, even if he had to go on the road, and sell items, he was always trying to work, always tried to—he wouldn’t have a steady job, but he was always on the go thinking of ideas of how to make a dollar and helping the family.

Mr. Griffin. Do you remember when he left school what he first started to do?

Mr. Rubenstein. That is a good question. I imagine—let me think what he did do. I think he scalped a few tickets during the fights. All the kids used to do that to try to make an extra buck. That is the only revelation that I have in my mind, but as far as a steady job was concerned, no. Jack never cared for no steady jobs.

Mr. Griffin. How did this particular ticket scalping work, where would he get the tickets?

Mr. Rubenstein. Let’s say he borrowed $20 from some friend who had $20. Two days before the fight he would buy $20 worth of tickets, and then if the fight was a sellout, he would sell the tickets for maybe 50 cents or a dollar more than what he paid for the ticket and people would be glad to pay him for it on the outside. So, he would make himself $5 or $6, and $5 or $6 during those years would go a long way.

Mr. Griffin. Would he buy these tickets at the box office or would there be somebody else who would go in and buy up a big block of them?