Chief Stevenson. Yes, sir; they were all east of it, both the north and the south ramp.
Mr. Hubert. Because of the change of plans which required the bringing up of automobiles to get into the ramp leading up Commerce Street, it is your thought it was necessary to alter that, and that someone did alter them to allow some of the press to be on the ramp leading toward Main Street?
Chief Stevenson. Yes, sir; I believe that is right.
Mr. Hubert. In fact, how many were there, do you recall?
Chief Stevenson. No; I don’t. I would say there were possibly, when I went down the last time immediately before the transfer, I would say there was possibly 20 to 30 back up the ramp.
Mr. Hubert. Were any police officers in front of them?
Chief Stevenson. Oh, yes.
Mr. Hubert. Now were you present during the conversation between Chief Curry and Sheriff Decker regarding the matter of who would transfer the prisoner?
Chief Stevenson. No, sir; I don’t believe I was in the chief’s office at the time he called Sheriff Decker, Mr. Hubert.
Mr. Hubert. About when did you learn that the police department would actually accomplish the transfer itself?