Mr. Rubenstein. Indirectly, not directly, indirectly.

Mr. Griffin. First of all, tell us how you happened to know Mr. Feiwell.

Mr. Rubenstein. He used to come down to the club and give us talks.

Mr. Griffin. What club was that?

Mr. Rubenstein. The Deborah Boys Club.

Mr. Griffin. I see. And what sort of work did Mr. Feiwell do?

Mr. Rubenstein. He was a big lawyer in Chicago.

Mr. Griffin. He took a liking to you?

Mr. Rubenstein. He wanted to encourage me because I was working my way through high school and he tried to help out all the boys that he possibly could.

Mr. Griffin. And he made introductions of you to people in politics?