Mr. Hubert. What officer was that?

Captain Fritz. I don’t know, some of my officers.

Mr. Hubert. Of course you have seen pictures?

Captain Fritz. Several of the officers knew him, but I didn’t know him.

Mr. Hubert. You have seen pictures of Ruby and perhaps you have seen him in person since?

Captain Fritz. Oh, yes; I have questioned him since then.

Mr. Hubert. Can you search your memory and tell us whether you saw that same person in and about the police department, particularly the third floor, on the 22d and 23d?

Captain Fritz. No, sir; I did not. I was very busy at that time. It is possible I could have seen him. If I did, I wouldn’t have known him, because there was 200 or 300 people I didn’t know.

There was a mob scene, a terrible thing, and I would have uniformed officers help me to get from my office to the chief’s office, to the elevator, and back, to get through the crowd, so he could have been in that crowd and I wouldn’t know it. I have heard since, he was in the crowd, and he probably was. I wouldn’t have known. I would have thought he was another one of those men from the same crowd.

Mr. Hubert. Did you have anything to do with the planning of the exact transfer of Oswald to the county jail?