That call came after my call from the chief asking me about the 10 o’clock transfer.
Mr. Hubert. There have been some reports that have reached us that at the very moment of transfer, that is to say, when you were coming out, and until the shooting, that the various police officers who were lining the wall had their sidearms drawn and in their hands. Did you see anything like that?
Captain Fritz. I didn’t see anything like that as I came out. I think probably what they are telling you about, is that some of the officers drew their sidearms after the shot was fired.
Mr. Hubert. Was there any——
Captain Fritz. I didn’t see anyone with a pistol in their hand as we came out. If we had seen that, we probably would have gone back to the jail, because we wouldn’t have known what an officer was doing with a gun drawn. He had no need to have a gun out at that time.
Mr. Hubert. Did you see any shotguns visible or riot guns?
Captain Fritz. No, sir; I didn’t. We had shotguns and rifles in my car for this transfer. I had already put them on the floor of the car where we could pick them up easily.
Mr. Hubert. Were they visible?
Captain Fritz. No, sir; they weren’t visible. There was an officer with them.
Mr. Hubert. Captain, I believe that is all I have. Is there anything else you can say?