Mr. Griffin. Prior to World War II, were you ever on a salary or payroll for any Democratic club?
Mr. Rubenstein. No. Only with the job that I had.
Mr. Griffin. So your political activities prior to World War II were on a voluntary basis and would have been in your spare time apart from your other job?
Mr. Rubenstein. Yes. Unless the big men in Chicago once in a while if they had me do an errand purposely slipped me a $5 bill because they knew I earned it.
Mr. Griffin. Did you ever have occasion during that period to do any favors for Jack?
Mr. Rubenstein. What Jack, my brother?
Mr. Griffin. Your brother Jack.
Mr. Rubenstein. Yes. He got in a fight one time with a policeman for scalping tickets, and so I had to go to court for him.
Mr. Griffin. When was that?
Mr. Rubenstein. I don’t know but that was dropped. That is the only time that I can remember when Jack actually got in trouble where you might say was minor. Never before.