Mr. Rubenstein. Yes; during the Christmas holidays when everybody tries to make a buck for the holidays selling Christmas novelties or toys or gimmicks on the street, you know. It was terrific. I will never forget that. That is the kind of a guy Jack was. When he wanted a permit he used to get one.
Mr. Griffin. Do you recall any other episodes of that nature?
Mr. Rubenstein. There could have been but this was the greatest. It is a wonder I didn’t get fired. I will never forget that.
Mr. Griffin. Were you working for the Illinois Commerce Commission at that time?
Mr. Rubenstein. I think I was at that time because that was the longest job I had with the city outside of being with the Board of Local Improvements for a couple of years.
Mr. Griffin. When was that?
Mr. Rubenstein. Before the Commerce Commission.
Mr. Griffin. You mention the period 1932 to 1941 as the Commerce Commission. Are you clear in your mind that that is when you did start there, in 1932?
Mr. Rubenstein. When Horner got in, I think it was 1932.
Mr. Griffin. And before that you worked for?