Mr. Fleming. The back end of the car was up against the front bumper of our truck, so to speak.
Mr. Hubert. So you simply walked to the driver’s seat and asked him what he was going to do, and he told you what he said?
Mr. Fleming. Then I crossed the street diagonally to talk to Goin, who was standing on the outside of his car.
Mr. Hubert. How far was Goin from you when you were standing talking to the officer?
Mr. Fleming. Well, the width of the street. Place it diagonal, and he would be about three car lengths.
Mr. Hubert. In other words, the car was on the other side of the street?
Mr. Fleming. About three car lengths forward of our position, so it would be the width of the street, plus whatever it would be.
Mr. Hubert. Then you walked back?
Mr. Fleming. I walked back.
Mr. Hubert. Now, during all the time that you were at the Dallas police jail, from the moment when you first arrived, did you see anyone going down the driver’s side of the space between the armored car and the wall?