Mr. Rubenstein. No.

Mr. Griffin. Does he have a family that is still living?

Mr. Rubenstein. Yes; he has a son, a doctor, Dr. Hyman Rubenstein, and he has got about three or four sisters, very nice, family.

Mr. Griffin. Where do they live?

Mr. Rubenstein. On the north side.

Mr. Griffin. They are living in Chicago?

Mr. Rubenstein. In Chicago.

Mr. Griffin. Did you see this family from time to time as you were children?

Mr. Rubenstein. Very, not as regularly as we should. We should have seen them oftener but we didn’t.

Mr. Griffin. About how often would you say?