Mr. Hall. There is a period of time of 30 minutes that I am not real positive. The time that the first call came in at 9:45—I feel reasonably sure that I was down at the terminal by 10:30. Exactly the time I left the church would be close to 10:05, because my wife had just started her Sunday school class.

Mr. Hubert. What time did that begin?

Mr. Hall. 9:50; and I peeked into her room to quietly tell her to get home as best she could, that I had to go to work.

Mr. Hubert. Where is the church located?

Mr. Hall. At the corner of Colorado and Turner in Oak Cliff.

Mr. Hubert. Where is the terminal?

Mr. Hall. 1800 Leonard.

Mr. Hubert. How did you drive?

Mr. Hall. About a 10-minute drive?

Mr. Hubert. How did you go down?