Mr. Rubenstein. Right.

Mr. Griffin. Do you know where you and your mother stayed when your father left?

Mr. Rubenstein. Probably in Warsaw.

Mr. Griffin. Do you know any reason why you did not accompany him?

Mr. Rubenstein. Well, the only reason I can give you is he had to get away first. He didn’t want the army to find him.

Mr. Griffin. He was really escaping from the army?

Mr. Rubenstein. Right. He didn’t want any more of it. He had it. And I think there was a Japanese war going to break out there any day, and he didn’t want no part of that so he just broke away.

Mr. Griffin. Do you know if, did he ever mention whether religious problems were a reason, any factor in his leaving or do you have the impression it was strictly his dislike for the military service that caused him to leave?

Mr. Rubenstein. Well, you know Jews in the Russian Army is a tough proposition, a very minority race and he probably didn’t like that, either.

Mr. Griffin. He never mentioned that to you?