Captain Talbert. Many times.

Mr. Hubert. I mean the first time that you talked to him, do you remember?

Captain Talbert. I can’t recall the first time. I can’t recall actually getting in touch with Pierce from the hospital. Now I possibly did, but I was a busy man, and I can’t recall.

Mr. Hubert. When you did talk to Pierce about how Ruby claimed he entered into the basement, did he seem to know about it?

Captain Talbert. No, sir. He was quite vociferous, in fact.

Mr. Hubert. Vociferous in what way?

Captain Talbert. Language. We wouldn’t want to put it in this deposition, sir. By that I mean he was alleging that he had entered that Main Street entrance. Lieutenant Pierce said he couldn’t have. And then the vociferousness.

Mr. Hubert. It was a matter of emphasis on that point?

Captain Talbert. Was an emphasis on Ruby’s character, actually.

Mr. Hubert. In other words, Pierce’s reaction was that it was not true, so far as he knew?