Mr. Pullman. I am working for a company right now.

Mr. Griffin. And whom do you work for?

Mr. Pullman. I’m working for Freed Furniture Co.

Mr. Griffin. And were you working for them at the time I have mentioned?

Mr. Pullman. No; I just started with them. I was just working for myself—I have just started with them.

Mr. Griffin. Do you have a family?

Mr. Pullman. My wife and daughter and children.

Mr. Griffin. When, approximately, did you first meet Jack Ruby?

Mr. Pullman. Well, I met Jack—oh, I’d say several years ago, but I never had any real contact with him, but I had heard a lot about Jack, but I never had any contact with him until 1963, and that was in the summer.

Mr. Griffin. How did Jack happen to make contact with you at that time?