Mr. Griffin. Did you know Kathy Kay?
Mr. Pullman. Yes; I knew most of the girls that were there. We knew—what’s her name—that New Orleans girl?
Mr. Griffin. Jada?
Mr. Pullman. Jada or something like that.
Mr. Griffin. Were you at the night club?
Mr. Pullman. I was there at the time when she was brought in.
Mr. Griffin. Were you there when Jack turned out the lights on her?
Mr. Pullman. He never turned the lights out on her.
Mr. Griffin. At least not in your presence?
Mr. Pullman. No; he wouldn’t never do that. He would give her an awful lot of hell, he would almost hit her—I’ll tell you that, but he wouldn’t turn the lights out.