Mr. Griffin. What did you hear about it being bitten off?

Mr. Pullman. Then I heard later—later on somebody made the remark that it was actually bitten off in a fight and then I didn’t know what to believe, and knowing the type and coming from the East, I am originally from New York and I have known lots of fellows like that—there are a lot of people who were involved with unions and who were always in that element.

Mr. Griffin. Were there any other things that Jack ever mentioned to you that he was sensitive about?

Mr. Pullman. Yes, he didn’t like any vulgarity in his place. That was another surprise to me. Of course, he always bragged that he was a very rough fellow when he had the Silver Spur place on Ervay, I believe it was.

Mr. Griffin. Did you know him then?

Mr. Pullman. No, but he would brag about the fact that he was so rough people would walk on the other side of the street because they were so afraid of him at the time.

Mr. Griffin. Now, from the time your wife started to work for him until you last saw him at the Texas Product Show, about how much time would you say you spent with him?

Mr. Pullman. Oh, practically almost every evening around the club.

Mr. Griffin. For what period of time?

Mr. Pullman. I think it was about 2 months—I just can’t remember exactly—how long it was.