Mr. Griffin. Did Jack ever tell you about his plans to open a new nightclub.

Mr. Pullman. Yes, he has had plans for other places—sure.

Mr. Griffin. What specifically did he tell you about that?

Mr. Pullman. Well, he had one particular location that he kept talking about, and he wanted to open a real high class place and as a matter of fact he offered me the proposition to take it over, manage it and host it, and my wife didn’t want any part of it, knowing the type of person he was, and I didn’t want to be involved with anything like that.

Mr. Griffin. Were you ever engaged in any other business with him besides the twistboard?

Mr. Pullman. That was the only thing—that’s all.

Mr. Griffin. You were never involved in the sale of any vitamin pills or any other products with him?

Mr. Pullman. No; the only reason I thought that the twistboard had merit was because it was a new idea and it fitted in with the new products show, and I discussed it with the promoters of the show before I even took it in and they thought it wouldn’t hurt to put it in there at all.

Mr. Griffin. Did you encourage Jack in the idea that that might be a profitable venture?

Mr. Pullman. Yes; I did, because I thought possibilities, but he had to know how to go about doing it. He had no market set up for it, but I felt we may find out what appeal it really had, and which would be the best way to sell it.