Mr. Kravitz. Well, I never discussed much with Mr. Ruby. At one time—when all this happened, it was in the Jewish holidays, and one incident I had with Mr. Ruby, he called me up once and wanted me to go with him to the synagogue, but I didn’t know Mr. Ruby well and I didn’t really want to go to the synagogue with Mr. Ruby—he is a character and so on and so forth, and I think he got a little aggravated with me, and I didn’t see him after that until the night which you are talking about.
Mr. Griffin. How long was this telephone request before you saw him?
Mr. Kravitz. Oh, God, I would say months—I didn’t go back to that place until this young lady I was out with that night wanted to go there, and I said to her, “Well, I really don’t want to go there,” and said that I had had words with Jack Ruby, and I don’t know how she interpreted that, but anyway, I did go back and I shook hands with him that night.
Mr. Griffin. Did he call you in connection with any high holiday?
Mr. Kravitz. Yes; there was one of the high holidays—it was either, if you are familiar with them, it was either Rosh Hashanah, or Yom Kippur—it was one of those; but I can’t be sure which.
Mr. Griffin. How did he happen to call you?
Mr. Kravitz. That’s a good question; I don’t know. The night that we were out with Freddie Barber, we talked until 3, 4, or 5 o’clock in the morning—Freddie Barber and myself—we went out after, for breakfast, and I think he might have been impressed with me: I don’t know.
Mr. Griffin. Did he know what business you were in at that time?
Mr. Kravitz. No.
Mr. Griffin. Were you in the clothing business at that time?