Mr. Knight. That I don’t know, if he were in listening distance or not, because I wasn’t paying any attention to Ruby while Wade and I had the interview. But when I got through with the interview he was over say 15, 20 feet. He must have been talking to other reporters and so forth in the vicinity.

Mr. Griffin. How long did your interview with Wade last?

Mr. Knight. Oh, about 30 seconds.

Mr. Griffin. What did you do after you finished interviewing Wade?

Mr. Knight. It took, the interview, either 30 seconds or a minute. I took the interview on the tape recorder, started out of the courthouse building. As I say, Ruby cornered me again, saying that he—and we walked up to the best of my knowledge, we walked up back to the main entrance. He said he had sandwiches and soft drinks for the personnel over at our station, KLIF, and offered me a ride back to the station. But since it was so close I did not ride back to the station with him. And I walked back to the station and evidently he went to his car from this point.

Mr. Griffin. How far is the station?

Mr. Knight. As I say, three or four blocks.

Mr. Griffin. In what direction?

Mr. Knight. As you go out of the courthouse, the station would be to the left.

Mr. Griffin. That would be south?