Mr. Knight. No.

Mr. Griffin. Did you receive a telephone call from Ruby?

Mr. Knight. No; I didn’t. But Ruby had called Duncan earlier asking if it would be all right if he did deliver sandwiches and soft drinks to the radio station.

Mr. Griffin. I mean you say the next thing you heard from Ruby. Now, how did you hear from him? Did he proceed to walk right in?

Mr. Knight. Well, the door was evidently open and it had been open because we had newsmen going in and out. We had, there was a guy from New York City that phoned in his reports from the radio station, a station called WNEW.

Mr. Griffin. Ike Pappas?

Mr. Knight. Right.

Mr. Griffin. Had you known Pappas before that?

Mr. Knight. No; but Pappas met Ruby there at that same time period.

Mr. Griffin. Ruby came up to the newsroom where you were talking with Duncan?