Mr. Knight. No; he didn’t call me at the house. I guess he didn’t even know my number. So I got to the station about 6. And, of course, we had, had gone, we were top 40 so to speak, play the hit records. We were playing albums. And I didn’t have anything to do except cut in with the station breaks and news items that pertained to the situation. And I guess it was between 6 and 8 sometime, I didn’t pinpoint it. Ruby called and wanted to talk to me. He called the newsroom and wanted to talk to me. So I talked to him and I got on the phone, right when I got on the phone a break was coming after the record, and I said, “I have to go, I can’t talk.”

Mr. Griffin. Station break was coming?

Mr. Knight. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. Excuse me; I’m trying to pinpoint the time here before you get into it. Is it a quarter-hour station break or hour?

Mr. Knight. No; half-hour, on the hour.

Mr. Griffin. This would have been approximately on the half-hour or hour when he called you?

Mr. Knight. Approximately; yes.

Mr. Griffin. You had already been there some time?

Mr. Knight. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. So it would have had, it couldn’t have been before the 6:30 station break?