Mr. Griffin. Tell us what you mean by a gambler by profession.
Mr. Rubenstein. Well, years ago when everything was open in Chicago, like certain communities were. He is a professional gambler. He dealt cards or he run a crap table, or he was in that particular line. Maybe he booked horses; I don’t know. But I know Hershey.
Mr. Griffin. How about Jimmy Weinberg?
Mr. Rubenstein. Never—I heard of him but I don’t know him.
Mr. Griffin. Did you know Alex Gruber?
Mr. Rubenstein. Never heard of him.
Mr. Griffin. How about Mike Nemzin?
Mr. Rubenstein. Oh, there is a nice guy. Mike is a nice guy, but Mike is not Jack’s friend; he is Earl’s friend.
Mr. Griffin. How about Marty Eritt?
Mr. Rubenstein. Rambler agency in Chicago; very well respected and a very nice guy.