Mr. Knight. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. When was that?

Mr. Knight. Saturday night when we were all talking together.

Mr. Griffin. You mean early Saturday morning?

Mr. Knight. Saturday morning.

Mr. Griffin. Did he make this statement upstairs in the newsroom or when you were down on the landing talking to him?

Mr. Knight. I think it was when we were out in the hall walking down to the landing. But he wanted Gordon McLendon to do an editorial, again I don’t remember the exact words used, but I think against the elements in Dallas that would bring something about; yes.

Mr. Griffin. Of course, what you are suggesting from the things you said here is that Ruby or at least the inference one can draw is that Ruby had the idea that radical elements in Dallas were somehow responsible. I take it by this we are talking about the rightwing radicals. Or were there leftwing radicals in Dallas also?

Mr. Knight. Well, I’m not too familiar with the terms.

Mr. Griffin. Well, the H. L. Hunt?