Mr. Dietrich. Well, I left my home on Harter Road, entered North Cliff, took a right on North Cliff on Buckner, Buckner to Loop 12, Loop 12 to Central Expressway, and then I made an exit to Ross, took a right on Ross to the terminal, which is about six blocks from Ross and Central Expressway.

Mr. Hubert. You think you left your home about 10 or 15 minutes after?

Mr. Dietrich. After I talked to Mr. Fleming.

Mr. Hubert. So you would have left your home about 5 minutes after 10, or 10?

Mr. Dietrich. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. So you arrived at the terminal at 10:20 or 10:25?

Mr. Dietrich. Along about 10:30.

Mr. Hubert. What happened to you when you got to the terminal?

Mr. Dietrich. On arriving at the terminal, the first two people I met were Don Goin and Bert Hall. I referred to him as Bert Hall. His name is Marvin.

Mr. Hubert. They were both there?