Mr. Dietrich. If I remember correctly, we entered Ross Avenue, took a left on Harwood, drove up Harwood to Commerce, and took a left and proceeded about one-half block and parked on the left side of the street, I would say, about 5 feet beyond the ramp that goes into the basement of the city jail or city hall.
Mr. Hubert. In other words, you passed the exit on Commerce Street from the city hall?
Mr. Dietrich. Yes, sir; we did. We had to.
Mr. Hubert. Did you pass the larger truck and get in front of it; or did you wait until it backed in before you proceeded further?
Mr. Dietrich. If I remember correctly; we passed the larger truck.
Mr. Hubert. And got in front of it?
Mr. Dietrich. Yes; we got in front of it, and if I remember correctly, the larger truck had difficulty maneuvering into position in order to back into the—I started to say cellar—basement. Actually, it was too large to go into the basement.
Mr. Hubert. Could you tell us how long it was between the time you first arrived at the terminal, considering the various things you have said happened, until you left starting off to go to the city jail?
Mr. Dietrich. You mean from the time I arrived at the terminal?
Mr. Hubert. Yes; until the time you left the terminal.