Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mrs. Kaminsky. We often thought if my mother hadn’t been so emotional and—perhaps, things might have been different.

Mr. Griffin. Well, did your father show kindnesses towards you even though—when he wasn’t living in the home?

Mrs. Kaminsky. I think he did towards the children; yes.

Mr. Griffin. What sort of things do you remember him doing?

Mrs. Kaminsky. Well, buying meat, clothes or shoes or things. In those days, it was difficult to obtain; depression days.

Mr. Griffin. Where was he living when he wasn’t living with your people?

Mrs. Kaminsky. When he wasn’t?

Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mrs. Kaminsky. Well, I remember vaguely him living with a—you would call it now the east side, around Halsted Street or something like that.