Mrs. Kaminsky. Well, we—he was going to drive us home to the—to the train, and we—well, first we were going to go to dinner and he was going to take us back to the apartment, and we were going to leave the next day, and instead, we spent 2 days there.

As a matter of fact, the reason we stayed over, Eva and Jack had an argument and he asked me to stay over. [He believed I might make peace between them.] He felt badly and, as a matter of fact, the minute it was over, we never did get to dinner, we went back to his apartment. He had me call her and see how she was.

Mr. Griffin. What was the argument about?

Mrs. Kaminsky. Oh, someone had called him person to person and she had accepted the call and it was for him and so he became angry and then, she asked him if he knew somebody, and he didn’t, and she kept repeating the name, and she sort of riled him up, you know.

Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mrs. Kaminsky. And I myself would have become angry. She kept repeating it, “Don’t you know so-and-so? Don’t you know so-and-so?”

I can’t think of the name. He said, “No, I don’t”; and then, quite a few words and an argument. As a matter of fact, he pushed her.

Mr. Griffin. He pushed her?

Mrs. Kaminsky. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. Did he hurt her?