Mrs. Kaminsky. She said—I remember this. I felt—she says, “You know, I feel worse about this than when Pa died,” and we did because my father was 89, you know, and it [President Kennedy] was a man really in the prime of his life.

Mr. Griffin. If I understand your testimony, you talked with Eva Friday evening and some mention was made that Eva would call Hyman?

Mrs. Kaminsky. Yes; she said something that she was going to call him and I said, “Well, don’t forget to tell him he left his glasses at my house.” I am sure it was that night.

Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mrs. Kaminsky. We talked about this when I was down in Dallas and she says, “Don’t you remember I called you?” I says, “Well, I thought I called you.” Of course, we could check it, I suppose, to see who called who.

Mr. Griffin. How about the conversation that you have just related about Hyman and the glasses? This is something that you remembered on your own or did somebody have to remind you of that?

Mrs. Kaminsky. I think Eva reminded me. She said, “Don’t you remember to tell”—Well, we call him “Mess.” It is a nickname—“that he left his glasses.” I says, “Oh, that’s right.” I mean, you know, it didn’t——

Mr. Griffin. Well, originally, when you talked to Eva, did you have any recollection of the telephone conversation at all with Eva?

Mrs. Kaminsky. I didn’t understand that.

Mr. Griffin. When you first talked with Eva——