Mrs. Kaminsky. I believe it is Fayette or Layette. I asked Jack to—for his name. I didn’t want to ask any of the policemen, you know.

Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mrs. Kaminsky. So Jack—that’s the name Jack gave me. He had operated the elevator there all the time during the selection of the jury and during the part of the trial that he was there for. And he called my sister Eva about 11 o’clock this Thursday night. I tried to figure back the date. I think I wrote it in a previous letter I addressed just to the Commission itself.

Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mrs. Kaminsky. And he said that this man who, I guess, he is a private detective or detective who takes the polygraph test, Sweatt, Allen Sweatt, had been riding in the elevator with him and Allen Sweatt said that, “Unless the State’s attorney can drum or rook up some good witnesses for tomorrow, I am going to walk Jack Ruby right out of this jail, because the State’s attorney has lost the case.” And it was the very next morning that Dean gave his testimony, if I remember correctly. I wasn’t in the courtroom because I was supposed to be a witness so they didn’t let me in.

Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mrs. Kaminsky. So I found out—I don’t know how we found out that he worked at the Southwest Automotive Parts. I don’t know whether Jack found that out for me or not. I did ask Jack, and anyway, he did say he worked at some sort of automotive parts.

Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mrs. Kaminsky. We heard it was Southwest Automotive because that possibly——

Mr. Griffin. Of course, you don’t have any information that Sweatt was aware of the witnesses—your suggestion, I take it, that until that Thursday night, nobody had ever heard of Officer Dean’s testimony? Well, you don’t know?