No. 2, I was a little bit too old for that kind of a deal. You get to be a certain age you don’t want that noise all night long and you realize it, you don’t have to be there but you can realize it, you can visualize the job. I didn’t want it.

All of a sudden he sends me up, do you know what a twistboard is? I should have brought one with me.

Mr. Griffin. Tell us what it is.

Mr. Rubenstein. I showed it to the FBI. Somebody in Dallas invented a twistboard. It is a square board, two boards, one on top of the other with a ball bearing that separates it in the center.

Mr. Griffin. So that one piece of wood rests on the floor and the other would swivel around on the top of it?

Mr. Rubenstein. And you stand on this and you can twist.

Mr. Griffin. Indicating you stand on the board and twist your body around.

Mr. Rubenstein. “$1.69 retail, hottest thing in the world. Go out and sell it.” I still have it home with the original wrapper and all.

Mr. Griffin. This is what Jack told you?

Mr. Rubenstein. He told me and he also made me a sample.