Mr. Griffin. Were you a member of a union in connection with that?
Mr. Fehrenbach. No.
Mr. Griffin. Is there any sort of formal apprenticeship training program?
Mr. Fehrenbach. There wasn’t at that time. Now, I stayed with Mr. Jaffe until 1944 when I went into the service, and then when I was discharged in 1946 I came back, I went back to Mr. Jaffe, went back to work for him. I was there, I think a period of just a few months and then he got set up on this here training program by the Government for training veterans, and I believe I was with him for about 2 years after that.
Mr. Griffin. How did you, in 1942, happen to get this job with Mr. Jaffe?
Mr. Fehrenbach. There was a friend of mine, a Jimmie Tricker who was working for him, and Jimmie’s eyes were very bad, he couldn’t see to do the work, and so Sam had asked him if he knew of another young boy that would be interested in learning this work. So Jimmie told him about me and I went to him, and it worked out and I stayed with him.
Mr. Griffin. Was Jimmie Tricker the same age as you?
Mr. Fehrenbach. He was the same age as I was.
Mr. Griffin. How long had he worked for Mr. Jaffe?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Jimmie had only been there about a week or so until he found out that he couldn’t see.