Mr. Griffin. Was that a good wage at that time?
Mr. Fehrenbach. No; I can’t say that it was a good wage, but I was learning a good trade.
Mr. Griffin. Was there anything that you had said or done that would indicate that you were unhappy that you weren’t making more money?
Mr. Fehrenbach. No.
Mr. Griffin. Was there anything about you or anything that you had said which would indicate, have indicated to Mr. Jasser that you might be receptive to the kind of things he was saying to you?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Nothing that I know of.
Mr. Griffin. Go ahead and tell us more about this conversation.
Mr. Fehrenbach. Oh, he would—there were so many things there, but the main point he was trying to get across to me was this fact of everybody making more money, everybody made the same amount of money regardless of who their employer—their employer didn’t actually make more money than the employees did.
Mr. Griffin. At that time did he mention the Communist Party in that conversation?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Not at that time; I would say it took approximately a couple or 3 months before he actually come around and told me then that, now my understanding were they were all Russian Jews but he didn’t—I believe he called it the Fifth Party or something like that, and I didn’t even know at that time what he was talking about and then I pointblank asked him why was the Communist Party, why did he consider the Communist Party so much better than our own democracy that we had here, and he said, “Because eventually,” he said, “We are going to rule the entire world.” He said it is bound to come.