Mr. Fehrenbach. No.
Mr. Griffin. Do you know what time the meetings took place?
Mr. Fehrenbach. No; I couldn’t tell you that.
Mr. Griffin. Well, did they take place in the afternoon?
Mr. Fehrenbach. No; they was in the evening, usually at night, anyway it was after everything was closed, after 5:30.
Mr. Griffin. I see. How many of these men would come to your shop at any one time before these meetings?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Very seldom would there be over three or four at any one time.
Mr. Griffin. What would they do—what would they do when they would come into your shop?
Mr. Fehrenbach. They would go into the office with Sam and usually talk about different ones who were going to come and things like that. Whenever they got to talking about what the meeting was about I never overheard anything like that because they usually lowered their voices.
Mr. Griffin. So when they said—what you would do is see two or three men come into the shop and they would go into Sam Jaffe’s office. They would have a conversation but you wouldn’t know what the conversation was about?