Mr. Fehrenbach. No; I don’t think they was—I think that is all they talked about. I know, one of the main things they used to get into the biggest argument about was who was doing the most during the war Russia or the United States, and Russia, of course, they said was doing everything.

Mr. Griffin. Is it fair to say from your observations that you don’t know whether there was anything more than a philosophical discussion or general discussion of political ideas taking place?

Mr. Fehrenbach. Well, that would be the only way I could put it because I never knew of anything else that they——

Mr. Griffin. You don’t have any information that there was any sort of espionage or anything like that going on?

Mr. Fehrenbach. No.

Mr. Griffin. So when you make the statement that, for example, Max Pritcher was a Communist, what you are saying is that he discussed with these other men the Communist philosophy.

Mr. Fehrenbach. Right. How so much better if they could get the United States to see their way, and I don’t know, they just didn’t agree with anything the U.S. Government done in any way, shape or form. This is, I suppose, one reason that turned me more or less against all of them, I mean, because that and the fact that Lawson Jaffe and everyone of them at one time or another ridiculed the United States.

Mr. Griffin. Did you tell any of your friends or family about these people?

Mr. Fehrenbach. My mother knew about it, and, of course, I suppose I said something to my father, although I was—my father and I didn’t talk too much. He was never home, and I never saw him too much. And then, of course, after I was married why my wife knew about it.

Mr. Griffin. Did you tell any friends about it?