Mr. Fehrenbach. Yes, Sam wanted to know, he said they are going to get a little unhappy with you because they think you have taken those papers from up there in the hall, and I said, “Well, Sam, I didn’t see them when I was up there.”
Mr. Griffin. Well now, don’t you think that—let me ask you this. Did Sam Jaffe indicate that he had anything to do with that list?
Mr. Fehrenbach. No. He was, I think, more or less trying to find out if I had the list and if I would give these papers back to him he would see they would get back to them and they would leave me alone. I think this was the only reason why Sam wanted the list or these papers, as they kept referring to them. They never referred to them as a list, but said papers.
Mr. Griffin. Were there any other papers up there beside the list of names?
Mr. Fehrenbach. No; I didn’t see them.
Mr. Griffin. Go ahead, you were going to say something.
Mr. Fehrenbach. Actually, I feel if I had had them as rough as some of them were getting about it and as nasty as they were getting about it, I would have given them back to Sam. But I had turned them over to Merv Collins and I couldn’t give them back.
Mr. Griffin. You never told anybody about it?
Mr. Fehrenbach. No, because they were getting a little nasty about it, and Lawson Jaffe came to me and said. “If I find out you took those papers I am going to cut your blooming throat,” those were his exact words and they were getting to be quite nasty about it.
Mr. Griffin. Were all the people who were listed on that list, were they all in the jewelry business that you knew?