Mr. Griffin. Of which year?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Of 1943.
Mr. Griffin. Now, you were going to tell me, I think when I interrupted you, that the second time that you met him you and he went to a restaurant?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Right. Now the second time—I don’t know if this blonde girl was with him the second time or not, it seems to me she was, but she wasn’t with him when him and Seymour came up the shop or Charlotte. Yes, Charlotte was with him or came in later. Anyway——
Mr. Griffin. Let me interrupt you now; are you sure on this second occasion that he came to Muncie with Charlotte and Seymour?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Yes; he did come with them.
Mr. Griffin. How do you know that?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Because they had been talking about the trip and they had had some trouble or something, I can’t remember what it was, anyway they was talking about what had happened, and then also they was talking about when they was going to leave.
Mr. Griffin. Where were they going, someplace else from Muncie?
Mr. Fehrenbach. No; they was going back to Chicago and how long they were intending to stay; I don’t know. It seems to me I would say it was 3 or 4 days that I seen them around there. But anyway, Jack Rubenstein and I went on to the restaurant, and we had lunch over there, and Jack paid for everything, and then just as we was leaving, why then Charlotte and Seymour came in, and then I went back to the shop and where Jack went I don’t know. He went someplace else.