Mr. Fehrenbach. I don’t believe so. I don’t recall if Miss Shaw was ever around when they had questioned me at all; I can’t remember she was ever around at anytime. She could have possibly been.
Mr. Griffin. Was she employed there when Jack—did Jack Rubenstein ever visit the store when she was there?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Yes; I am quite sure that she was there on the last time that I seen him. She would have had to be there—I am sure she was—because this was after I came back from the service and I don’t recall Mary ever taking a vacation or anything. She was always there, maybe once or twice I remember she was off sick but I am quite sure she was there. However, I don’t recall—yes; that is before, I was going to say the card tricks, I don’t recall her being there but then, of course, she wasn’t because he didn’t have the jewelry store then but the last time he was there. I am quite sure Mary would have had to have been there unless she was off sick or something. And now that was the time, like I say, that Jack was rather distant. He came in and he spoke, and that was about the length of it.
Mr. Griffin. Did he come in with anybody at that time?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Yes; he came in with Seymour and Charlotte at that time.
Mr. Griffin. How long was this before or after you found the list?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Well, it was after I found the list but I can’t remember. It could have been before, too, I just could not say for sure whether it was before or after I found the list.
Mr. Griffin. Was it a matter of a couple of days or a couple of weeks before or after?
Mr. Fehrenbach. I would say roughly it would be right around very nearly the same time.
Mr. Griffin. Well——