Mr. Griffin. Now, are you sure that Jack Rubenstein and Charlotte and Seymour came down during the week and not on weekends?

Mr. Fehrenbach. Well, usually they came on the weekend. It was usually now, as near as I can remember, there was only one time that I remember they came that there was a meeting that night. Usually they came down and spent the weekend, I don’t know where they stayed, whether they stayed with Sam or Lawson or who they stayed with.

Mr. Griffin. You only remember one occasion that Seymour and Charlotte came that there was what you called these meetings at night?

Mr. Fehrenbach. Seymour, that was the second time, that was the day that Jack and I went to dinner, Jack Rubenstein, and this was during the week.

Mr. Griffin. What makes you remember that there was a meeting that night?

Mr. Fehrenbach. Because they was talking, there had been several, I don’t know how many, up there during the day, they was talking about the meeting that night. They never referred to what the meeting was or where the meeting was going to be or anything about it.

Mr. Griffin. What was it that made you remember the meetings on this particular night?

Mr. Fehrenbach. You mean the second time that I met this——

Mr. Griffin. Yes; I take it—— Mr. Fehrenbach. There was a meeting that apparently had some significance because there were so many people coming in.

Mr. Griffin. But that wasn’t the meeting at which you found the list?