Mr. Fehrenbach. Well, I don’t know. At the time he asked me to go to lunch with him, I was under the impression that he was something of a—I never really affiliated him with the Communist Party up until at that time, and what he was it was his business; it was none of mine. Like I say, I didn’t think too much about it at that time. But because he asked me to go to lunch with him, I felt pretty important, this is why I remember.

Mr. Griffin. At that point though did you associate him with the Communist Party?

Mr. Fehrenbach. Well, I more or less, I suppose knew that he was because he was coming in with Seymour and all the rest of them.

Mr. Griffin. You mean you thought he was?

Mr. Fehrenbach. I thought he was but I wasn’t sure. I had no actual knowledge. I mean they never said he was or he never said in any way anything concerning the Communist Party in any way, shape, or form to me and the only way I do connect him with it is like I say when I picked up the list.

Mr. Griffin. Did you ever talk with Seymour about the Communist Party?

Mr. Fehrenbach. No.

Mr. Griffin. How many times did you talk with Seymour?

Mr. Fehrenbach. I would assume almost every time that he came in.

Mr. Griffin. So you talked with Seymour at least a dozen times?