Mr. Griffin. Now, did he telephone you from the Carousel Club between the time he called you from the Morning News and the time he saw you at your house?

Mrs. Grant. Mr. Griffin, if you don’t let me tell my story my way—that is what this whole—I had told him he better come. I was sick. I was so sick. I had a major operation, and I felt I was going to fall apart. I don’t know what was happening to me over there. I just can’t explain it. I was operated—let me tell you—on November the 7th, so you figure, and the other doctors know about what happened.

He came over and he didn’t stay long. It seems to me he stayed 5 minutes or 8 minutes or 10 minutes. He did not stay a half-hour. He said, “What do you want?” I said, “Will you get something from the delicatessen?” And he said, “I have to go back to the club.” He said. “Well, did you read it?” And I said, “Yes.” He left.

Now, I assume he called me from the Carousel, and I actually assume it was about an hour later, maybe, or even an hour and a half. So, I said, “When are you coming?” And he said, “Well, I will go over to Phil’s Delicatessen.” And I said, “Where are you?” And he said, “I am downtown.” And I said, “Listen, I would rather you went to the Ritz,” which is down the street. They have better food. They have fresher and better variety. He said, “I am coming right over.” His “right over” came, I would say it was, after 4 o’clock. Maybe a quarter of 5. Maybe it was 5. Maybe it was even 5:15.

Mr. Griffin. Could have been as late as 5:30 or 6?

Mrs. Grant. It wasn’t after 5:30.

Mr. Griffin. What makes you think this?

Mrs. Grant. Well, we were waiting for the 6 o’clock news, and it seems to me that there wasn’t enough news on there. But as a rule, as little as I stay home to listen, I know there is a 6 o’clock news. By that time I heard already a policeman was shot, and he probably heard it where he was. And I remember watching television, and that afternoon it seems to me this man was Curry, said we got the right man. He had three draft cards and a bunch of stuff. He defected. That is what it seems to me in my mind. If I could get the tape. And I was still tuned to channel 8.

Jack came in with enough food——

Mr. Griffin. If I understand you correctly, when he came to your house at 2:30, at that time you mentioned to him to get some food?