Mrs. Grant. Yes; she was up much earlier. She came up, I think it was, 10 o’clock. That is how I got the paper, because I don’t get the paper.

Mr. Griffin. After Pauline Hall called and said you were having a fit, did she come up again?

Mrs. Grant. Yes; she stayed, and well, she thinks I am very emotional or something wrong. She is of a different temperament, and she said, “Do you think you will be all right?” Now, after that, my brother came up.

Mr. Griffin. But Mrs. Goodman came up to your apartment after you learned that the President had died?

Mrs. Grant. Sometime; I would say, very shortly.

Mr. Griffin. How long did she remain?

Mrs. Grant. Not too long. I think 5 minutes. Five minutes or 7 minutes. You know, not long.

Mr. Griffin. How long after Mrs. Goodman, did Jack arrive?

Mrs. Grant. This is the first time you are talking about? It could have been an hour. It could have been 40 minutes. It wasn’t 3 hours.

Mr. Griffin. Could it have been 2 hours?