The Major-General said, "He would venture 600 common men, besides Officers; and fifty pioneers."

Marshal Turenne said, "600 of Monsieur la Ferté's army and 50 Pioneers; and 600 of his own army and 50 Pioneers more, would make better [more] than 2,000 men."

Major-General Morgan replied, "They were abundance to carry it, with GOD's assistance."

Then his Excellency said, "He would acquaint the King and his Eminence that Major-General Morgan had put him upon that desperate design."

Major-General Morgan desired his pardon, "For it was in his [the Marshal's] power to attempt it, or not to attempt it."

But in the close, Marshal Turenne said to the Major-General that "He must fall into Monsieur la Ferté's approaches, and that he should take the one half of Monsieur la Ferté's men; and that he would take the other half into his own approaches."

Major-General Morgan begged his pardon, and said "He desired to fall on with the English entire by themselves, without intermingling them."

Marshal Turenne replied, "He must fall on out of one of the approaches!"

The Major-General replied that "He would fall on in the plain between both approaches."

His Excellency said that "He would never be able to endure their firing; but that they would kill half his men before he could come to the Counterscarp."