Q.—I suppose there was great excitement in the office to see how she would go? A.—Yes. (Laughter.) I had heard great talk of the Alert. I was not astonished to get back safely in her.

Richard Gough, examined by Mr. Mitchell, stated: I am a shipwright surveyor, and have been working for about three years surveying ships for the Marine Board. I knew the Alert, and on two occasions made a survey of her for the river and Bay trade. The last survey I made was in April, 1893. I then made a declaration. I should say the Alert was sea-worthy in every respect. The opening spoken of as the pantry window was about fourteen inches by twelve inches square. The glass was about half-an-inch thick, and was in a strong wooden frame. I don’t remember how it was fastened. It would not make the ship unsea-worthy in the slightest degree. The grating was a great height from the main deck, and if any water went down it would only be a splash. The bunker lids fitted into sockets. They rested by their own weight. Unless the ship were upside down no water could go through them. In my opinion the wooden awning did not make the ship unsea-worthy. When the alterations were being made I did not have before me the specification of what had to be done.

Cross-examined by Mr. Box: On one occasion after repairs were completed the Alert had a permit to go to Tasmania, not a certificate. A certificate is for a year; a permit is only for the occasion. I gave a certificate to the engineer. There would be no examination of the vessel again on her return from Tasmania because she had a certificate for the river and Bay trade. We do not make a declaration to give a permit. I did not make a declaration that the Alert was fit for the outside trade. Captain Deary was appointed shipwright surveyor, and he took my place. Captain Deary is not a shipwright, but I cannot help that. He was appointed, and is a shipwright surveyor by virtue of his office. A shipwright surveyor’s certificate should be given by a man skilled in shipwright surveying. I never measured the grating. When I surveyed the Alert for the permit to go outside the Heads to Tasmania, she had not got a shutter in front of the window. I do not remember whether she had a shutter at any time I surveyed her. I signed a certificate about life-boats only for the river and Bay trade. I signed only the permit to go outside. The Alert was built for shallow water.

Re-examined by Mr. Mitchell: In my opinion the Alert was a sea-worthy vessel fit to go to Tasmania. When Captain Deary made the declaration that she was fit for the outside trade, I was still a shipwright surveyor, but was receiving no pay from the Marine Board. I had ceased to be their officer through retrenchment. I believe the Alert’s trip to Tasmania had something to do with clearing the Customs duty off her engines.

Samuel Johnson, examined by Mr. Mitchell, stated: I am assistant engineer and surveyor for the Marine Board. I have had two and a-half years’ experience in that capacity. I have had about five years’ experience at sea as third and chief engineer. I signed the declaration with Mr. McLean. Alongside the wharf I tested the vessel under steam to see to the safety valve. The test was satisfactory. Mr. McLean inspected everything else. I only saw the vessel in dock for about half an hour.

Cross-examined by Mr. Smyth: So far as the steam was concerned I made a thorough examination. I signed the declaration for that part of the survey which I did. I made no examination of the vessel’s hull. I daresay my examination took over an hour alongside the wharf, and on that I gave the certificate. So far as I was concerned that authorised the Alert to go to sea.

KILPATRICK v. HUDDART, PARKER & CO., LTD.