While I am on this subject of facilities, let me invite attention to the fact that there are marked differences in the kinds of facilities offered by different hospitals and by the hospitals of the different Services. Let me also invite attention to the fact that we have patients who, if properly distributed, would fit into these different institutions possibly in a much more satisfactory way than at present and at a smaller expense. Particularly I suspect that there are many patients in Public Health Service hospitals that do not need the highly specialized and necessarily expensive care that these hospitals are giving, and I also suspect that there are many vacant beds in our Soldiers’ Homes where these patients can be given all they need at a much less expense than is possible in the highly developed hospitals of the Public Health Service, and possibly those of the Army and Navy as well. Why would not this be a good time to arrange for the prompt transfer of such patients? Europe has found the Convalescent Home to be an economical institution, being much less expensive than the hospital. Why may not our Soldier’s Homes be used for convalescents and those who need relatively little medical care and treatment, but who are still not well enough to be thrown on their own resources? These questions I shall not number. They just crept in.

There is one class of beneficiary that none of the Services seems to be prepared to handle satisfactorily, possibly due to the fact that legislation is needed to deal with this class. There may be a solution other than legislation but none of us has thought of it as yet. I refer to the drug addict who is entitled to hospitalization for some Service connected disability. We haven’t any place to put such patients and we do not know what to do with them after we put them there. We do manage to take care of some of them but at great inconvenience, and without being able to treat them for their own best interests. We cannot get them admitted as irresponsibles by the Courts. We have no such thing as involuntary commitment, and if one of them desires to walk out of the hospital, out he walks if he is persistent enough about it, and we cannot stop it. This is a good time to say something about what we might to with these cases.

I have said very little about discharges for the reason that disciplinary discharges are to be treated by another speaker, and Regulations Nos. 26 and 26–A, bearing on this subject are to be discussed by Doctor Guthrie, who follows me on the program. I will say, however, that this subject is an important one and I can easily understand that from the standpoint of the man in charge of a hospital present procedures with regard to discharges are unsatisfactory. On the other hand, I can understand that when a man is in a hospital it affords an excellent opportunity to settle once and for all his claims for the various benefits provided by law, and yet I think it is right that the Veterans’ Bureau should accomplish these objects before the man is ready to be discharged. As yet this is not being done.

In conclusion, Gentlemen, I may say that as I see it, those of you who are in charge of hospitals are, if you will pardon the expression, between the devil and the deep blue sea. You are told one minute that if you exceed your allotment you will go to jail, and in the next breath you are told to go the limit if it is for the ex-service man. You have been told that there is room for improvement in your hospitals. No doubt there is, but in my humble opinion there is also room for improvement in the laws providing these benefits, in the orders, regulations and procedures designed to administer these laws, and last but not least, there is a crying need for some means of creating a sane public sentiment that will enable the public servant to discriminate between the man who really has a serious disability which he got in the Service who deserves our help and our sympathy, and to whom you and I would give the shirts off our backs if need be, and the man who spent a few days or a few weeks in camp who is not really disabled but who proposes to live at the expense of the tax payer just as long as he can get away with it.

We, Gentlemen, are not responsible for the law, nor is the Director, and the Director has men who tell him what the law is and he has to obey it and so do we, but it is our duty to point out defects in the law and try to get them remedied.”

SURGEON M. C. GUTHRIE (U.S.P.H.S.) had for his subject, “Discussion—General Order No. 26”, and spoke as follows:

“The subject assigned to me for discussion is General Order No. 26. This refers to U. S. Veterans’ Bureau General Order No. 26, dated September 6th, 1921, the subject of which is: “Admission to and Treatment in Hospitals of the U. S. Veterans’ Bureau Beneficiaries.” You are doubtless all familiar with the general provisions of this order.

It goes without saying that any definite order or instruction which effects the policies and functions of the U. S. Veterans’ Bureau and which may be issued to the field is sure of a series of return re-actions from various parts of the country, both as to the manner in which such an order is applied and as to the consequences of its application. These reactions are naturally good, bad, and indifferent; exact and truthful statements or colored as to the manner in which they affect the various individuals in its application, but coming from all parts of the United States they afford many valuable and effective criticisms of the order in question and are illuminating as to the original intent of the order and the amount of deviation or variation from its original purpose brought about by the manner in which it is put into effect.

The criticisms of General Order No. 26 had to do very largely with the “Four Days’ Notice” clause, and because of the fact that large numbers of beneficiaries in hospitals were being discharged without provisions having been made for out-patient care, dental care, physiotherapy, or other treatment where such was indicated and necessary; that patients were being discharged without having proper arrangements made for vocational training where the patient in question was feasible for some kind of training and was anxious to get it; that many such patients had to leave a hospital when they were receiving no compensation or where adjustments or readjustments of matters related to compensation needed to be carried out here.

These were the dominant and outstanding criticisms which followed the issuance of General Order No. 26, and as a result of these criticisms, it was considered advisable to issue a supplemental order correcting the defects complained of. Accordingly General Order No. 26–A came out under date of November 17, 1921.