Professor Smith: You say a half-inch scion on a four-inch stock?
Mr. Wiggins: Yes, on a four-inch stock you get a cut an inch or one and a half inch wide. You have a large space that is not covered at all.
Professor Smith: They live?
Mr. Wiggins: Yes, of course.
Professor Smith: Only touch in spots?
Mr. Wiggins: On top and bottom and on one side. I get cambium together at top—I am careful about that—and then I get on the left side an exact fit but not on the other sides.
The Chairman: Have you had much experience with walnuts?
Mr. Wiggins: No. I should think the best results with walnut as well as with pecans would be by cutting the scion wood the year before.
The Chairman: This is certainly a very interesting discussion, but I have another grafter here yet. A demonstration by Mr. Jones will close this morning's session.
(Mr. Jones gave a demonstration of cleft grafting stating that he used that method practically altogether.)