Sheppard—Indeed my lord I can't be positive in the times. My lord I am sure was at one meeting.
Lord Chief-Justice—But was he at both?
Sheppard—I think so; but it was eight or nine months ago, and I can't be positive.
Lord Russell—I can prove I was then in the country. Col. Rumsey said there was but one meeting.
Col. Rumsey—I do not remember I was at two; if I was not, I heard Mr. Ferguson relate the debates of the other meeting to my lord Shaftesbury.
Lord Russell—Is it usual for witnesses to hear one another?
Lord Chief-Justice—I think your lordship need not concern yourself about that; for I see the witnesses are brought in one after another.
Lord Russell—There was no design.
Jeffreys—He hath sworn it.
Attorney-General—Swear my lord Howard (which was done). Pray will your lordship give an account to the Court, what you know of a rising designed before my lord Shaftesbury went away, and afterwards how it was continued on.