A. He mentioned that there was a transaction going on.
Q. Does the circumstance of the pamphlet bring back to your recollection what Sunday it was?
A. I cannot state the day of the month, but it was towards the end of January or the beginning of February.
Q. State what Mr. De Berenger then said?
A. He said that they had a plan in view——
A. Who had?
A. That De Berenger had, with Mr. Cochrane Johnstone and Lord Cochrane, that provided it succeeded, it would put many thousand pounds in the pocket of Mr. Cochrane Johnstone and Lord Cochrane.
Q. Upon hearing this, did either you or Mr. Harrison ask Captain De Berenger what the plan was?
A. I did, and he declined answering it; I said, "is it the plan with regard to Ranelagh which it was proposed to build in Alsop's Buildings, on Mr. Cochrane Johnstone's land," and he said "no, it is not, it is a far better plan."
Q. Did you collect from Mr. De Berenger's conversation with you, whether there was any particular intimacy between him and Mr. Cochrane Johnstone and Lord Cochrane?