Q. Did you, or anybody else, to your own knowledge, recommend Mr. De Berenger as a person who could assist him in planning that place?

A. I had previously introduced him: I will just state the circumstance that led to my introduction.

Q. I do not know that the circumstance is in the least material. You say the introduction was at first accidental; was there, in consequence of that accident, any connection with them, as to Mr. De Berenger assisting him in this plan?

A. Yes.

Q. The place was intended to be called Vittoria?

A. Yes.

Q. Did Mr. De Berenger employ himself in preparing a plan, as an artist?

A. He did, which plan is here (producing it).

Lord Ellenborough. The exhibition of the plan cannot be important, I should think.

Mr. Scarlett. It may become material, because Mr. Cochrane Johnstone had paid him for the plan.