Mr. Gurney. Were you present?

Mr. Scarlett. Or did you convey any draft?

A. Yes, I conveyed a letter, and I spoke several times.

Q. To Mr. Johnstone.

A. Yes, upon the subject of the paying him for the plans.

Q. Without at present alluding to any letter, do you know what was the price that De Berenger asked for the remainder of the plans?

A. No price, I believe, was ever stipulated; no price was ever fixed till February last. Mr. Johnstone and myself had repeated conversations on the subject of the price of the plans, and as to the remaining sum that he should pay him.

Q. You made repeated applications to Mr. Johnstone to pay him?

A. I did, always in a delicate way, not saying, that Mr. Berenger required so much; but he requested I would take a mode of giving a hint to Mr. Johnstone, as to the payment; a hint he was always ready to take.

Q. Have you any means of knowing what was the money Mr. Johnstone did pay him?