Notes and Queries, Number 205, October 1, 1853 / A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Geneologists, etc.

by Various

T. Hughes.

Chester.

"Ampers and," &c. (Vol. viii., p. 173.).—Mr. C. Mansfield Ingleby having revived this Query without apparently being aware of the previous discussion and of Mr. Nicholl's solution, "and per se and," may I be permitted to enter a protest against the latter mixture of English and Latin, though fully concurring in the statement of Mr. Nicholl, that it is a rapidly formed et (&). To the variety of pronunciations already appearing in "N. & Q.," let me add what I believe will be found to be the most general, empesand, which I believe to be a corruption from emm, ess, and (MS. and) by the introduction of a labial, as in many other instances. But has any one ever seen it spelt till the Query appeared in "N. & Q.," and where?

Frank Howard.

The Arms of De Sissonne (Vol. viii., p. 243.).—There is a copy of Histoire Généalogique et Chronologique de la Maison Royale de France, par le Père Anselme, nine vols. folio, Paris, 1726-33, in the library of Sir R. Taylor's Institution, Oxford. The arms of the Seigneurs de Sissonne are not blazoned in it. It is stated by Anselme, that

"Louis, Bâtard de Sarrebruche-Roucy, fils naturel de Jean de Sarrebruche, Comte de Roucy, fut Seigneur de Sissonne, servit sous Jean d'Humières, et est nommé dans plusieurs actes des années 1510, 1515, 1517, et 1518. Il fit un accord devant le prevôt de Paris avec Robert de Sarrebruche, Comte de Roucy, le 28 Mars, 1498, touchant la terre et châtellenie de Sissonne."—Tome viii. p. 537.

The arms of the "Comte de Sarrebruche, Sire de Commercy en Lorraine, Conseiller et Chambellan du Roi, Bouteiller de France," &c., are represented—

"D'azur semé de croix recroisetées au pied fiché d'or, au lion d'argent couronné d'or sur le tout."

The following are also extracts from the Histoire Généalogique:

"Louis de Roucy, Comte de Sissonne, élection de Laon, portoit d'or au lion d'azur."...

"Le Nobiliaire de Picardie, in 4º. p. 46., donne à Louis de Roucy, Comte de Sissonne, deux neveux, Charles et Louis de Roucy, Seigneurs d'Origny et de Ste Preuve."—Tome viii. p. 538.