DR. KAUFFMANN: Then your information service had no connection at all with such crimes.
SCHELLENBERG: No.
DR. KAUFFMANN: Then Kaltenbrunner, too, would not be guilty in regard to this point?
SCHELLENBERG: Certainly; because he was, at the same time, the Chief of Amt IV of the State Police.
DR. KAUFFMANN: I asked “in regard to this point,” and by that I meant your sector.
SCHELLENBERG: I only represented the Sector Amt VI and Amt Military.
DR. KAUFFMANN: But Kaltenbrunner, at the same time, was Chief of Amt VI?
SCHELLENBERG: Kaltenbrunner was the Chief of the RSHA. Eight departments, as you probably know, were under him. I was at the head of one or two of them, namely, Amt VI and Amt Military. These two offices had nothing to do with the executive power of the State Police.
DR. KAUFFMANN: Then, if your department . . .
THE PRESIDENT: What I understood you to say was that you were only in a branch which was an information center; is that right?